Ice machine for a BBQ restaurant (smokehouse)
A BBQ restaurant or smokehouse is usually heavy sweet tea plus fountain and iced-tea cup-fill. The load is the cup. A Saturday that plates 180 brisket tickets and pours 440 teas and soft drinks has an ice line of 440 cups, not 180 covers. Charts we opened do not print a BBQ restaurant, smokehouse, or pounds-per-brisket row. The closest published lines are the quick-service / fountain ounce cells — Ice Machine Sales’ drink ladder, and the same Kitchen Spot / GoFoodservice / KaTom / Memphis / Webstaurant bands already used on the fast-food / QSR page — plus a restaurant 1.5 lb per guest row only for table-service covers that are not already those cups.
That is a different worksheet from a full-service restaurant that starts at 1.5 lb per guest and treats tea as part of the cover. Dining, when this building actually plates it, is a second line. It does not replace the tea counter. It is a different worksheet from a drive-thru QSR sized on that page’s 800 drive-thru cups plus 200 lobby cups. A staffed smokehouse urn is not that window. It is not a taco shop agua fresca counter, not a deli salad-bar flake plant, and not a food truck stuck on 115 V and a water tank. A BBQ truck uses the food-truck page.
This is a planning page from published application factors and current OEM sheets already in this directory. It is not a dealer quote, not a review score, and not a health-code opinion. Confirm electrical, plumbing, clearance, and sanitation with the people who inspect the building.
Who this is for
- Counter-service and fast-casual BBQ restaurants and smokehouses with a staffed sweet-tea urn, iced tea, or fountain next to the ticket window. Refills are still cups. Count the pours.
- Smokehouses with a small dining room. Plated covers are a second line, and only for guests whose ice is not already in the cup count.
- Shops that sell or pack to-go bags. Bags are a third line: bag weight times bags. They are not a second pass through the tea ounces.
- A beer-and-wine rail or a real cocktail well, only if that bar exists. Beer-and-wine is the published 1 lb per person row. Cocktails are 3 lb per seat. Neither is a BBQ factor.
It is not a dining room sized only at 1.5 lb per guest. It is not a drive-thru window. It is not a taqueria agua fresca counter. It is not a deli salad bar. It is not a cocktail bar unless they shake drinks. It is not a BBQ truck.
Published factors
None of the pages below name a BBQ restaurant or a smokehouse. These are dealer and OEM application rules of thumb, not a manufacturer warranty and not a lab measurement of your urn. Convert ounces to pounds as 16 oz = 1 lb and label the conversion. Apply +20% once, and only where that source marks it.
The Kitchen Spot sizing URL returned HTTP 403 on 2026-10-03. The Kitchen Spot cells below are the ones the fast-food guide recorded on 2026-09-30 and the taco-shop guide recorded on 2026-10-01, when that URL opened. Ice Machine Sales’ FAQ chart, opened 2026-10-03, prints the same six drink cells and does not print a percent.
| Line | Published source | Factor | What the source is talking about |
|---|---|---|---|
| Quick serve and drive-through beverage, used here for sweet tea and fountain cups | Ice Machine Sales FAQ chart, Commercial Ice Machines, opened 2026-10-03 | 5 oz ice / 10 oz drink; 6 / 12; 8 / 16; 10 / 20; 12 / 24; 16 / 32 | Converted: 5 ÷ 16 = 0.3125 lb, then 0.375 / 0.50 / 0.625 / 0.75 / 1.00 lb per drink. No percent on this FAQ table. Restaurant on the same chart is 1.5 lbs per guest. No BBQ row. |
| Same six drink cells, with a margin the FAQ does not print | The Kitchen Spot, “Convenience Store, Quick Serve, & Drive Through Beverage Service,” as recorded 2026-09-30 and 2026-10-01 | 5 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 16 oz ice per 10 / 12 / 16 / 20 / 24 / 32 oz drink. Table marked add 20% | Same conversions as the row above. Once needs exceed 1,000 lb/day, their prose says 10% additional output should suffice. That 10% replaces 20%. It does not sit on top of it. URL 403 on 2026-10-03, so this page does not claim a fresh scrape. |
| Quick service cups | GoFoodservice, restaurant block, live header Last updated: Sep 20, 2026, opened 2026-10-03 | Same as convenience store: 5 oz / 7–12 oz cup; 8 oz / 12–16; 12 oz / 16–24 | Converted: 0.3125 / 0.50 / 0.75 lb per cup. Restaurant on this page is 2 lbs per person, not 1.5. Their customer-count table includes 20% and has no quick-service column. |
| Drive-thru / quick-service ounces | KaTom, How Much Ice Should Your Commercial Ice Maker Produce?, dateModified 2026-09-14, opened 2026-10-03 |
5 oz per 7–10 oz cup; 8 oz per 12–16; 12 oz per 18–24 | Prose: add 20 percent to the estimate. The quick-reference header is Guidelines (+20% for Safety), and the 100 / 250 / 1,000 customer cells on the 8 oz row (60 / 150 / 600 lb) match ounces × customers ÷ 16 × 1.20. The printed 500-customer cell on that row is 375 lb, which is not 500 × 8 ÷ 16 × 1.20 = 300 lb. Do not use 375. No BBQ row. |
| Quick service, under Food Service on the page we opened | Memphis Ice, What Size Ice Machine Do I Need?, opened 2026-10-03 | 5 oz / 7–10 oz drink; 8 / 12–16; 12 / 18–24 | Restaurant on the same Food Service list is 1.5 lbs per person. Cocktail 3 lbs per person. Salad bar 40 lbs per cubic foot is that Food Service list, not the drink ounces. Prose: at least 20% additional capability on new installations. That sentence is not printed on the ounce cells. No BBQ row. |
| Fast food | WebstaurantStore Manitowoc quick-reference PDF and sibling manitowoc_sizing_guide.pdf, both opened 2026-10-03 | 5 oz / 7–10 oz drink; 8 oz / 12–16; 12 oz / 18–24 | Restaurant 1-1/2 lb per person. Cocktail 3 lb per person/seat. Water glass 4 oz per 10 oz glass. No date on either PDF. No percent on the fast-food cells. No BBQ row. |
| Quick-service restaurant, only with no cup count | Atlantic Store Equipment, dated Jul 15, 2026, opened 2026-10-03 | 0.5–1.0 lb per customer | “Drink size, refill policy, and takeout volume.” Where beverage counts exist, cup-by-cup is more precise. Reserve table: 10–15%, 15–25%, or 25–30%. That reserve replaces Kitchen Spot’s 20%. Full-service restaurant is about 1.5 lb per customer, added separately from beverages. No BBQ row. |
| Restaurant covers — second line only | Ice Machine Sales 1.5 lbs per guest (opened 2026-10-03); Kitchen Spot 1.5 lbs per guest (prior openings above); KaTom 1.5 lbs per person, table columns already include 20%; Memphis 1.5 lbs per person; Webstaurant/Manitowoc 1-1/2 lb per person; Atlantic about 1.5 lb per customer | Cover math | Only for table-service covers not already counted as cups. GoFoodservice’s restaurant row is 2 lbs per person, a different number. Do not average 1.5 and 2. |
| Water glass, if tea is already a counted cup | Ice Machine Sales, opened 2026-10-03: 4 oz ice / 10 oz glass; 6 oz / 12 oz glass. Webstaurant/Manitowoc and GoFoodservice: 4 oz per 10 oz glass. KaTom: add 5 ounces for every 7- to 10-ounce water glass | Ounces, not a cover | This is the extra glass at the table. It is not 1.5 lb, and it is not a second copy of the sweet-tea cup. |
| Bagged ice | GoFoodservice 10 lbs × bags sold per day. KaTom: bag weight × bags. Memphis and the Manitowoc PDFs: weight per bag × bags sold | A separate plant | Only if this smokehouse sells or packs bags. A shop that buys no bags has a bag line of zero. |
| Beer and wine, only if that bar exists | Ice Machine Sales 1 lb per person (opened 2026-10-03). Kitchen Spot prints the same 1 lb row on the prior openings | Not a cocktail seat | KaTom’s cocktail bullet says beer doesn’t require ice. That is not a zero for a beer-and-wine service that still ices glasses. A pint with no ice in the glass is zero. Do not copy 3 lb onto it. |
| Cocktail, only if they run a cocktail program | Ice Machine Sales, KaTom, Memphis, GoFoodservice, Atlantic, and the Manitowoc PDFs: 3 lb per person or per seat | A real well | Not a default smokehouse number. Kitchen Spot’s table, on the prior openings, marks +20% on this row too. KaTom’s customer columns already include 20%. |
| Self-serve refill station | Ice Machine Sales 2 to 3 lbs per person. Kitchen Spot 2 to 3 lbs per person. KaTom prose 2 to 3, table 3 lbs, columns include 20%. GoFoodservice calculator self-serve 3 lb, cells include 20% | Refill stations | A staffed 16 oz sweet tea is the ounce table. Do not drop 2–3 lb on every ticket. |
| Cold plate, only if that fountain uses one | GoFoodservice 45% more than the beverage calculation. Memphis and the Manitowoc c-store block 50% | Adder, once | Kitchen Spot’s beverage table, on the prior openings, does not print a cold-plate percent. A remote soda system is not a cold plate. Sweet tea from an urn is not a cold plate. |
| Prep / meat cooling | Atlantic, kitchen and food preparation | Measured peak-day use | No lb-per-brisket. A walk-in, a refrigerated pan, and a closed cooler are zero ice. Weigh ice that leaves the bin, or leave the line blank. |
| Derate | Kitchen Spot, prior openings: 15% or more less make in a ~90° kitchen with ~70° water. GoFoodservice, opened 2026-10-03: actual output may be 10–15% lower in hot rooms | Hot kitchen | Do not subtract this from a 90/70 column you already chose. Do not apply both sentences. |
| Bin | Kitchen Spot, prior openings | Bin usually 10–20% larger than daily make; the pile holds about 10–20% less than the printed bin pounds | A bin twice daily make is their “usually a bad idea” line for ice used every day. A smokehouse that pours tea every lunch does not get that exception. |
Pick one published ounce line for each cup size. Say which buffer you used. Do not put Kitchen Spot’s 20%, KaTom’s already-included 20%, Memphis’s installation 20%, Atlantic’s 15–25%, GoFoodservice’s calculator 20%, a cold-plate percent, and a hot-room derate on the same pounds.
Separate worksheets — do not stack the same cup
- A brisket ticket is not a cup. Count teas, fountain drinks, and iced teas. Atlantic: where beverage counts exist, cup-by-cup is more precise than a per-customer estimate.
- Unlimited refills are still cups. A second glass is a second cup. It is not permission to switch the whole day to 1.5 lb per guest.
- Lunch cups and dinner cups add. They are one day. The dinner window is not a second copy of lunch.
- One ounce chart per cup. Ice Machine Sales’ 8 oz ice on a 16 oz tea, KaTom’s 8 oz on a 12–16 oz cup, and Hoshizaki’s fast-food cell are not three additives. The taco-shop guide recorded the Hoshizaki 2018 brochure (Item #40071, dated 5-25-18) on 2026-10-01: 10.0 oz ice per 20–32 oz cup. This page did not re-download that PDF on 2026-10-03. A 16 oz sweet tea is not inside the 20–32 band.
- Dining covers are a second line, not a substitute. Use 1.5 lb per guest only for table-service covers whose ice is not already in the cup count. If their tea is already one of the 440 cups, do not also multiply them by 1.5. The restaurant page is the cover-only worksheet for a dining room that is actually plated service.
- A water glass is not a cover and not a second tea. If the only extra ice is the water glass, use the water-glass ounces. Do not add those ounces and 1.5 lb for the same person.
- A drive-thru window, if this building has one, is the fast-food page. Those window cups are not also counter cups. Do not paste this page’s 440-cup counter onto that page’s 800-cup drive-thru.
- Atlantic’s 0.5–1.0 lb per customer replaces the ounce line when you do not have a cup count. If you already counted cups, do not also multiply customers by 0.5–1.0.
- Bags, a beer-and-wine rail, and a cocktail well are separate. They are not a second pass through the tea ounces. A BBQ food truck is a different building: power, a drain, and a water tank dominate that worksheet.
- One buffer, from the source you picked. Kitchen Spot’s 20% (or 10% once that line’s needs exceed 1,000 lb/day) belongs on a Kitchen Spot application, once. Ice Machine Sales’ FAQ does not print it. Do not add it in their name.
Worked peak day — busy smokehouse counter, no drive-thru
Cup counts below are a planning assumption, labeled as an example, not a measured POS pull. One building. One peak Saturday. Staffed sweet-tea urn and fountain. No drive-thru. No self-serve refill station. No bags on this first line. No cocktail well. The dining room in this first pass is not a second line, because these guests’ teas are the cups.
- Lunch, 2 hours: 200 cups, Ice Machine Sales / Kitchen Spot 8 oz ice / 16 oz drink (sweet tea, iced tea, or fountain poured to a 16 oz cup).
- Dinner, 2 hours: 160 cups, same row.
- The rest of the day: 80 cups, same row.
Day: 200 + 160 + 80 = 440 cups.
440 × 8 oz = 3,520 oz. 3,520 ÷ 16 = 220 lb.
Kitchen Spot’s table, on the prior openings, says add 20%. The raw need is 220 lb, which does not exceed 1,000 lb/day, so the 20% margin is the one they print:
220 × 1.20 = 264 lb.
Ice Machine Sales prints the same 8 oz / 16 oz cell and does not print a percent. On that FAQ chart the day stays 220 lb. We do not multiply 220 by 20% and call the result an Ice Machine Sales number. We do not multiply 264 by another 20%. We do not also take Memphis’s installation 20%, Atlantic’s 15–25%, KaTom’s table 20%, or GoFoodservice’s calculator 20%. The hot-room sentences are why the model section uses 90/70 when the sheet has it.
The same 440 cups, split, still add to 220. They do not add a second day.
- Lunch: 200 × 8 ÷ 16 = 100 lb raw; × 1.20 = 120 lb with Kitchen Spot’s margin.
- Dinner: 160 × 8 ÷ 16 = 80 lb raw; × 1.20 = 96 lb.
- The rest: 80 × 8 ÷ 16 = 40 lb raw; × 1.20 = 48 lb.
- Check: 100 + 80 + 40 = 220. 120 + 96 + 48 = 264.
Same 440 cups, a different row on that six-cell ladder
Each line replaces the 220 / 264 lb day. It does not sit on top of it. Ice Machine Sales prints these six cells with no percent. Kitchen Spot’s prior openings print the same cells with add 20%.
| 440 counter cups | Raw (Ice Machine Sales, or Kitchen Spot before the margin) | Kitchen Spot’s table, +20% |
|---|---|---|
| 5 oz / 10 oz | 440 × 5 ÷ 16 = 137.5 lb | 165 lb |
| 6 oz / 12 oz | 440 × 6 ÷ 16 = 165 lb | 198 lb |
| 8 oz / 16 oz (the worked line) | 220 lb | 264 lb |
| 10 oz / 20 oz | 440 × 10 ÷ 16 = 275 lb | 330 lb |
| 12 oz / 24 oz | 440 × 12 ÷ 16 = 330 lb | 396 lb |
| 16 oz / 32 oz | 440 × 16 ÷ 16 = 440 lb | 528 lb |
The 16 oz / 32 oz line is 440 lb of need. That does not exceed 1,000, so Kitchen Spot’s 20% still applies (528 lb) if you are on their table. Their 10% sentence replaces 20% only when the need itself exceeds 1,000 lb/day. This 440-cup counter is not that building.
Other charts on these 440 cups — pick one, do not add it
KaTom, Memphis, and both Webstaurant/Manitowoc PDFs use three bands, not six. On 440 cups, with no percent printed on the ounce cells:
- 7–10 oz drinks, 5 oz ice: 440 × 5 ÷ 16 = 137.5 lb
- 12–16 oz drinks, 8 oz ice: 220 lb
- 18–24 oz drinks, 12 oz ice: 330 lb
A 32 oz tea is not on that ladder. Do not invent a fourth cell. KaTom’s prose says add 20 percent once. On the worked 8 oz row that is 220 × 1.20 = 264 lb, the same figure as Kitchen Spot’s margin. Use one of those 20% sentences, not both. KaTom’s quick-reference columns already include the 20%: 100 customers at 8 oz print 60 lb (100 × 8 ÷ 16 × 1.20). Do not look a cup count up in that table and then add 20% again. The 500-customer cell on the 8 oz row prints 375 lb. The ounce math with their 20% is 300 lb. This example does not use 375.
GoFoodservice quick-service cups, same 440, no percent on these cells:
- 7–12 oz cup, 5 oz: 137.5 lb
- 12–16 oz cup, 8 oz: 220 lb
- 16–24 oz cup, 12 oz: 330 lb
Their calculator’s 20% is not on these cells. Their 2 lb per person row is not these cells. 440 tickets × 2 lb = 880 lb is the restaurant row applied to a ticket count. It is the wrong method. 440 × 1.5 lb = 660 lb is the same mistake on the 1.5 lb row.
Atlantic QSR, only as a replacement, and only if you have customers and no cup count. If you treat these 440 cups as 440 customers with one drink each (a planning assumption, not a POS fact):
- 0.5 lb per customer: 440 × 0.5 = 220 lb. That matches the 8 oz / 16 oz raw line. It does not get Kitchen Spot’s 20% on top.
- 1.0 lb per customer: 440 × 1.0 = 440 lb. That matches the 16 oz / 32 oz raw line.
- Atlantic’s seasonal-restaurant reserve, if you want their buffer on the 0.5 lb line: 220 × 1.15 = 253 lb, or 220 × 1.25 = 275 lb. That band replaces the 264 lb Kitchen Spot margin. It is not 264 + 253. Their outdoor 25–30% cell is a patio smokehouse, not the indoor counter in this example.
Self-serve 2–3 lb is a different building. 440 × 2.5 = 1,100 lb. Use it only when the tea or soda is a refill station the charts are actually describing. A staffed urn stays on the ounce line.
Hoshizaki fast food, 10.0 oz per 20–32 oz cup, only if those cups are actually in the 20–32 oz band, and only as the cell the taco-shop page recorded on 2026-10-01: 440 × 10 ÷ 16 = 275 lb. That matches the 10 oz / 20 oz raw cell. It does not match 16 oz ice on a 32 oz tea (440 lb raw). The worked 16 oz cups are not inside that band.
Optional second line — table-service covers
Use this only when the cover’s ice is not already one of the 440 cups. Example, still a planning assumption: 50 plated covers whose water and iced tea were not poured as counted cups. The 440-cup counter stays as it is.
Ice Machine Sales, Kitchen Spot, KaTom, Memphis, and the Manitowoc PDFs: 1.5 lb per guest (the PDFs print 1-1/2).
50 × 1.5 = 75 lb.
If you stay on Kitchen Spot for both the cups and these covers, the 20% is once on the combined need, because both rows sit on the table they mark:
220 + 75 = 295 lb. 295 × 1.20 = 354 lb.
That 354 replaces 264. It is not 264 + 75, and it is not 264 + 90. If those 50 people are already inside the 440 cups, this line is zero and the day stays 264 lb on the Kitchen Spot reading (or 220 lb on Ice Machine Sales with no percent).
KaTom’s restaurant columns already include 20%. Their prose 1.5 lb on 50 guests is 75 lb; the safety margin they tell you to add is 75 × 1.20 = 90 lb of dining ice. Do not also put Kitchen Spot’s 20% on that 90. GoFoodservice’s restaurant row is 2 lb, not 1.5: 50 × 2 = 100 lb. Their calculator includes 20% and has no quick-service column, so the calculator applies to these 50 covers only if you chose their 2 lb row: 100 × 1.20 = 120 lb. That 120 replaces the 75 lb and the 90 lb. It does not sit on them. The cups stay on the ounce line.
Atlantic’s full-service about 1.5 lb on the same 50 is 75 lb, then their reserve if you want it: 75 × 1.15 = 86.25 lb, or 75 × 1.25 = 93.75 lb. That replaces Kitchen Spot’s combined 354 lb day only if you moved the whole day onto Atlantic. Do not put Atlantic’s 15–25% on top of 354.
Water glass, when the tea is already counted
If the 50 guests’ sweet tea is already in the 440 cups, and the only extra ice is the water glass, do not use 1.5 lb. Ice Machine Sales, opened 2026-10-03, prints 4 oz ice per 10 oz glass and 6 oz per 12 oz glass, with no percent:
- 50 × 4 ÷ 16 = 12.5 lb
- 50 × 6 ÷ 16 = 18.75 lb
Webstaurant/Manitowoc and GoFoodservice print 4 oz per 10 oz glass, the same 12.5 lb on these 50 glasses, and no percent on that cell. KaTom says add 5 ounces for every 7- to 10-ounce water glass: 50 × 5 ÷ 16 = 15.625 lb. Their general 20 percent sentence on that water line is 15.625 × 1.20 = 18.75 lb. That 18.75 replaces the unbuffered 15.625. It happens to equal Ice Machine Sales’ 6 oz / 12 oz glass on these 50 glasses. It is not the same cell.
Adding the unbuffered 12.5 lb water line to the Kitchen Spot cup day: 264 + 12.5 = 276.5 lb. The 4 oz cell does not get a second 20%, because Ice Machine Sales, GoFoodservice, and the Manitowoc PDFs do not print one on it. 276.5 replaces 354. The 354 figure was the full 1.5 lb dining line. A water glass is not that line.
Optional third line — bagged ice
Only if this smokehouse sells or packs to-go bags. GoFoodservice’s convenience-store cell, opened 2026-10-03, is 10 lbs × bags sold per day. Example, a planning assumption: 12 bags at that 10 lb cell.
12 × 10 = 120 lb.
KaTom, Memphis, and the Manitowoc PDFs say bag weight times bags. If the bag you actually sell is 8 lb, the line is 12 × 8 = 96 lb, not 120. Use the bag you sell.
The 120 lb does not go through the cup ounces, and it does not get Kitchen Spot’s 20%, because that 20% is not printed on the bag cell. Cups with Kitchen Spot’s margin, plus these bags, and no dining line: 264 + 120 = 384 lb. Cups and Kitchen Spot dining together (354) plus these bags: 354 + 120 = 474 lb. A shop that sells no bags keeps the bag line at zero.
Optional bar — only if it exists
Do not invent a BBQ bar factor.
- Beer and wine. Ice Machine Sales, opened 2026-10-03: 1 lb per person. No percent on that FAQ row. Example: 30 guests who are not already in the cup count: 30 × 1 = 30 lb. Kitchen Spot prints the same 1 lb row; their table’s 20%, if you are on that table, is 30 × 1.20 = 36 lb. That 36 replaces 30. KaTom’s cocktail section says beer doesn’t require ice. A pint with no ice is zero. A service that still ices water or a wine bucket is the 1 lb row, not 3 lb.
- Cocktails. Use 3 lb per person or per seat only when they actually run a cocktail program. Example: 12 cocktail seats, not already counted as tea cups: 12 × 3 = 36 lb on Ice Machine Sales, KaTom’s prose, Memphis, GoFoodservice, Atlantic, and the Manitowoc PDFs. Kitchen Spot’s 20% on that row is 36 × 1.20 = 43.2 lb. KaTom’s table already includes 20%, so do not add it again. Do not stack 1 lb and 3 lb on the same seat.
The bar page is the cocktail worksheet. The brewery page is the beer-and-wine worksheet. This page does not copy either onto a tea urn.
Cold plate — only if that fountain uses one
A cold plate cools soda by sitting in ice. A remote soda system does not get this adder. Sweet tea from an urn or a pitcher does not get it either. Kitchen Spot’s beverage table, on the prior openings, does not print a cold-plate percent.
On the busy counter’s 220 lb raw day, before any Kitchen Spot 20%, if every cup sat on a cold plate:
- GoFoodservice 45%: 220 × 1.45 = 319 lb. This replaces the 264 lb Kitchen Spot margin. It is not 319 + 264.
- Memphis / Manitowoc c-store block, 50%: 220 × 1.50 = 330 lb. Those pages print 50% under convenience store, not under fast food. Using it on a smokehouse cold plate is that c-store adder, labeled as a cross-read. It replaces both 264 and 319. Do not stack 45% and 50%.
A counter with no cold plate keeps the ounce line alone (220 / 264 lb on the worked row).
Do not stack this example
- The 200 lunch cups are not also the 160 dinner cups.
- Kitchen Spot’s 20% is the only buffer on the Kitchen Spot cup line. Ice Machine Sales’ matching cell stays at 220 lb.
- The 354 lb dining day replaces 264. It does not sit on top of it.
- A water glass replaces the 1.5 lb line for those same people. It does not join it.
- Bags are added as bags. They are not ounces of tea.
- 440 × 1.5 = 660 lb is the wrong method. So is 440 × 2 = 880 lb.
- A refrigerated meat cooler adds zero. Atlantic’s prep line is measured ice that leaves the bin. There is no published lb-per-brisket to put here.
Worked peak day — smaller counter, no drive-thru
Same method. Planning assumption: 160 cups, no window, no bags, no dining line outside the cups.
- Lunch, 2 hours: 90 cups.
- Dinner, 2 hours: 50 cups.
- The rest: 20 cups.
8 oz ice / 16 oz drink: 160 × 8 ÷ 16 = 80 lb. Kitchen Spot +20% → 96 lb. Ice Machine Sales, no percent on the cell: the day stays 80 lb.
Lunch pull: 90 × 8 ÷ 16 = 45 lb raw; × 1.20 = 54 lb. Dinner: 25 lb raw (30 lb with 20%). The rest: 10 lb raw (12 lb with 20%). Check: 45 + 25 + 10 = 80. 54 + 30 + 12 = 96.
Other rows on the same 160 cups, each a replacement:
- 6 oz / 12 oz: 160 × 6 ÷ 16 = 60 lb; Kitchen Spot +20% → 72 lb
- 10 oz / 20 oz: 160 × 10 ÷ 16 = 100 lb; +20% → 120 lb
- 12 oz / 24 oz: 160 × 12 ÷ 16 = 120 lb; +20% → 144 lb
This band is an undercounter conversation if the bin covers the lunch pull. The busy counter’s 220 / 264 lb day, and its 100 / 120 lb lunch, are not.
Bin and the lunch / dinner window
The 220 lb raw day (or 264 lb after Kitchen Spot’s 20%) does not leave in one minute, and it does not sit in the bin all day. Ice bin sizing is the leftover page. Production in 24 hours is not storage.
The busy counter’s larger window is lunch, 100 lb raw or 120 lb after the same 20%. Dinner (80 / 96 lb) is inside the day. Adding the windows double-counts the day.
Manitowoc IYT0450A air-cooled half-dice, directory page: 490 lb @ 70/50, 378 lb @ 90/70. Head only. The directory note says this head is not stackable.
- 378 lb @ 90/70 covers the 220 lb raw day, the 264 lb buffered day, the 330 lb 10 oz / 20 oz buffered day, and the 354 lb cups-plus-dining day. It misses the 396 lb 12 oz / 24 oz buffered day and the 528 lb 16 oz / 32 oz buffered day.
- Two hours at 378: 378 ÷ 24 × 2 = 31.5 lb. The hourly split is arithmetic, not an OEM hourly guarantee. Harvest is cyclic.
- Kitchen Spot’s “10–20% larger than daily make” shortcut on the 264 lb day is 264 × 1.10 = 290.4 lb and 264 × 1.20 = 316.8 lb. A bin twice that day would be 528 lb. Their prior openings call a bin that large “usually a bad idea” for ice used every day.
- This directory’s largest undercounter bin is 90 lb. Kitchen Spot’s 10–20% usable-loss reading: 90 × 0.90 = 81 lb, and 90 × 0.80 = 72 lb. Both miss a 100 lb lunch, and both miss a 120 lb buffered lunch. The busy counter is a modular head and a bin from that head’s compatibility list.
Hoshizaki KM-520MAJ is approximately 556 lb on the product page. 90/70 is not on that page. 556 covers 220, 264, 354, 396, and 528 on the “approximately 556” cell. If you apply Kitchen Spot’s “15% or more” because there is no 90/70 cell: 556 × 0.85 = 472.6 lb, about 473 lb. That is arithmetic on their derate sentence, not a printed 90/70 cell. 472.6 still covers 396 and 354. It misses 528. Do not also subtract 15% from the 264 lb target. The product page says two units may be mounted side by side. One head already covers this counter on the “approximately 556” cell, including the 32 oz row. This page does not invent a shared-bin poundage for a pair. The directory note lists compatible bins from B-250 through B-1300. Pair one the sheet names. Do not invent a shared bin with the IYT0450A.
Smaller-counter lunch, own cabinet
The 80 lb day (96 lb with Kitchen Spot’s 20%) is a different bin problem. Lunch pull 45 lb raw, 54 lb with the 20% already on those cups.
Manitowoc UYF-0190A on the NEO 140/190 family sheet: 193 lb @ 70/50, 140 lb @ 90/70, 90 lb bin.
- 140 lb @ 90/70 covers the 80 lb line and the 96 lb buffered line. It misses the busy counter. The 90 lb bin covers a 45 lb or 54 lb lunch if it starts with ice. Kitchen Spot’s 10–20% usable-loss on a 90 lb sticker (81 / 72 lb) still covers 54. It does not cover the busy counter’s 100 / 120 lb lunch.
- Manitowoc UYF-0140A is 100 lb @ 90/70 with the same 90 lb bin. 100 covers the 96 lb buffered day on this smaller counter and misses the 120 lb 10 oz / 20 oz buffered day. Same bin limit on the busy counter.
Hoshizaki KM-161BAK is 156 lb with a 78 lb bin. 90/70 is not on that HTML. 156 covers the 80 / 96 lb day on the “156” cell. The 78 lb bin covers a 54 lb lunch if it starts with ice. It does not cover a 100 / 120 lb lunch.
Ice-O-Matic ICEU150HA is 185 / 130 lb with a 70 lb bin. 130 lb @ 90/70 covers 96 and misses a 120 lb 10 oz / 20 oz buffered day on the smaller counter. The 70 lb bin covers a 54 lb lunch. Usable-loss at 20% is 70 × 0.80 = 56 lb, which still covers 54 and misses the busy lunch.
Ice type
Sweet tea and a chewable fountain drink are different jobs. See cube vs half-dice vs nugget vs flake.
- Half-dice or crescent is the usual staffed tea and fountain pour: it fills a 16 oz cup quickly and is the cube on the heads below (IYT0450A half-dice, KM-520MAJ crescent, UYF-0190A half-dice). GoFoodservice calls crescent the general-purpose cube.
- Nugget or cubelet when chewable soft-drink ice is the brand: RNP0320A nugget, GEM0450A Pearl, HID525 H² nugget dispenser. GoFoodservice’s dispenser copy names cubelet / nugget for fountain drinks.
- Flake is not the tea plant. Hoshizaki F-330BAK is the flake cabinet in this directory. A salad-bar well, if this building actually has one, stays on the deli page. Do not size the urn as flake because a smokehouse is “food.”
Form factor
A smaller counter (80 / 96 lb, lunch 45 / 54 lb) can be an undercounter if the bin covers that lunch. The busy counter (220 / 264 lb, lunch 100 / 120 lb) is a modular head and bin. Cooling is a mechanical choice, not an ounce factor. See air-cooled vs water-cooled and undercounter vs modular vs countertop.
| Job | Typical form | Do not use it for |
|---|---|---|
| Smaller counter, worked 80 / 96 lb, lunch 45 / 54 lb, 115 V on the directory pages | Undercounter half-dice (UYF-0190A, 140 lb @ 90/70, 90 lb bin) or crescent (KM-161BAK, 156 lb, 78 lb bin) | The busy counter’s 100 / 120 lb lunch out of a 78–90 lb bin |
| Same smaller counter, 90/70 column that misses a larger cup | UYF-0140A is 100 lb @ 90/70 with a 90 lb bin. 100 covers 96 and misses 120 | Treating “100 covers 96” as if a 20 oz row were the same day |
| Customer-fill soda at the counter | Dispenser. HID525 is 500 / 380 lb make and a 25 lb hopper | Treating the hopper as a 120 lb lunch leftover |
| Busy counter 220 / 264 lb day, half-dice or crescent | Modular head + bin. One IYT0450A at 378 lb @ 90/70 covers 264 and 354 and misses 396 and 528 | One 90 lb undercounter; stacking a head the directory note says is not stackable |
| Chewable ice at the busy counter | Modular nugget head (GEM0450A 354 lb @ 90/70, or RNP0320A 236 lb @ 90/70) plus a bin or a dispenser | Assuming 236 lb covers the 264 lb day |
| Bags by the door | The bag line above, or the c-store page if bags are the business | Folding 10 lb × bags into the tea ounces |
| BBQ truck | The food truck page (115 V, drain, tank) | Copying this 264 lb counter onto a truck circuit |
GoFoodservice’s form bands, opened 2026-10-03: modular 250–2,500 lb/day, staff access; undercounter 50–500 lb/day make, built-in storage 7–250 lb, typical commercial output 100–250 lb/day; dispenser production 200–800 lb/day, storage 8–250 lb. A band is not a SKU. This directory’s largest undercounter bin is 90 lb. The busy counter leaves that class because of the lunch leftover, even though 264 lb of make still sits inside GoFoodservice’s undercounter production band.
Current heads already in this directory
Figures are the directory pages, which cite manufacturer sheets. Street prices omitted. Pair a modular head with a bin from that sheet’s compatibility list.
| Model | Ice | Cited make | Storage | Smokehouse note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hoshizaki KM-81BAK | Crescent | 98 lb up to; 76 lb @ 90/70 | 38 lb | 76 lb @ 90/70 misses the smaller counter’s 80 / 96 lb day. The 38 lb bin misses a 45 lb lunch. |
| Hoshizaki KM-161BAK | Crescent | 156 lb. 90/70 not on that HTML | 78 lb | Covers the smaller counter’s 80 / 96 lb day on the “156” cell. The 78 lb bin covers a 54 lb lunch if it starts full. It does not cover a 120 lb lunch. |
| Manitowoc UYF-0140A | Half-dice | 137 / 100 lb | 90 lb | 100 lb @ 90/70 covers the smaller counter’s 96 lb day and misses 120. Same 90 lb bin as the 190. |
| Manitowoc UYF-0190A | Half-dice | 193 / 140 lb | 90 lb | 140 lb @ 90/70 covers the smaller counter. The 90 lb bin does not hold the busy counter’s lunch. |
| Ice-O-Matic ICEU150HA | Half cube | 185 / 130 lb | 70 lb | 130 lb @ 90/70 covers 96 and misses a 120 lb large-cup day on the smaller counter. 70 lb bin covers a 54 lb lunch. |
| Scotsman HID525 | H² nugget dispenser | 500 / 380 lb | 25 lb hopper | Customer-fill soda. The hopper is not a 120 lb lunch bin. |
| Manitowoc RNP0320A | Nugget | 308 / 236 lb | Head only | 236 lb @ 90/70 misses the 264 lb buffered day. |
| Ice-O-Matic GEM0450A | Pearl | 464 / 354 lb air-cooled | Head only | 354 lb @ 90/70 covers 264 and 330, matches the 354 lb cups-plus-dining day, and misses 396. |
| Scotsman C0330MA-1 | Medium cube | 400 / 288 lb | Head only | 288 covers 264 and misses 330 and 354. |
| Ice-O-Matic CIM0430A | Half cube | 435 / 320 lb on the cited PDF. A later reprint is flagged on that page as 310 lb @ 90/70 | Head only | 320 and 310 both cover 264 and both miss 330. Treat 90/70 as labeled if the sheet in your hands is the later one. |
| Manitowoc IYT0450A | Half-dice | 490 / 378 lb | Head only | One head covers 264, 330, and 354, and misses 396 and 528. Not stackable on the directory note. |
| Hoshizaki KM-520MAJ | Crescent | ~556 lb. 90/70 not on that page | Head only. Bins on the page include B-250 through B-1300 | Covers 528 on the “approximately 556” cell. About 473 (472.6) if you apply a 15% derate because 90/70 is missing. That derated reading misses 528. |
| Hoshizaki F-330BAK | Flake | 331 lb up to | 80 lb | Not the tea plant. |
Filter, drain, and cleaning stay on water filters and descalers and how to clean a commercial ice machine. A hot kitchen behind the pit is the 90/70 column when the sheet has one. Kitchen Spot’s 15% or more and GoFoodservice’s 10–15% are what you say when the sheet does not. Do not apply both, and do not apply either on top of a 90/70 number you already used.
What this page is not
- Not a full-service restaurant. Covers at 1.5 lb per guest stay on the restaurant guide when the dining room is the worksheet. On a smokehouse, dining is a second line, and only for covers that are not already tea cups. 440 × 1.5 = 660 lb does not replace the cup count.
- Not a drive-thru QSR. The fast-food guide’s worked day is 800 drive-thru cups plus 200 lobby cups. A staffed tea urn does not inherit that window.
- Not a taco shop. The taco-shop guide is counter-service aguas frescas, horchata, and a salsa well. Those are not sweet-tea urn math, and this page does not copy that guide’s 340-cup day.
- Not a deli. Salad-bar flake stays on the deli guide. A BBQ counter with no ice well does not get a lb-per-cubic-foot line.
- Not a food truck. A BBQ truck’s 115 V limit, drain, and water tank stay on the food truck guide.
- Not a cocktail bar. 3 lb per seat stays on the bar guide unless this building actually runs that well. Beer-and-wine 1 lb stays on the brewery page unless this rail exists. A pizzeria is the other counter that splits fountain cups from dining covers. It is not this tea urn.
- Not a code letter. NSF marks and manuals are on the sheets. We do not say an install “meets” a health department.
- Not a review and not a price list. No scores, no invented install counts, no street prices.
Sources
- Ice Machine Sales, Commercial Ice Machines — FAQ chart, opened 2026-10-03. Quick serve and drive-through beverage: 5 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 16 oz ice per 10 / 12 / 16 / 20 / 24 / 32 oz drink. Restaurant 1.5 lbs per guest. Cocktail bar 3 lbs per person. Beer and wine bar 1 lb per person. Self-service 2 to 3 lbs per person. Water glasses: 4 oz / 10 oz glass; 6 oz / 12 oz glass. No percent on the FAQ table. No BBQ or smokehouse row.
- The Kitchen Spot, Ice Machines: Sizing for Application — same six drink cells, restaurant 1.5 lbs per guest, cocktail 3 lbs per person, beer and wine 1 lb per person, self-service 2 to 3 lbs per person. Table marked add 20%. Once needs exceed 1,000 lb/day, 10% additional output should suffice. A ~90° kitchen and ~70° water can cut make by 15% or more. Bin usually 10–20% larger than daily make; expect the pile to hold 10–20% less than the printed pounds. Recorded on the fast-food guide 2026-09-30 and the taco-shop guide 2026-10-01. This environment got HTTP 403 on 2026-10-03, so those sentences are the prior openings, not a new scrape. No BBQ row on those openings.
- GoFoodservice, Commercial Ice Machine Guide — opened 2026-10-03. Live header Last updated: Sep 20, 2026. Restaurant 2 lbs per person; quick service cups same as convenience store (5 oz / 7–12 oz cup; 8 / 12–16; 12 / 16–24); water glass 4 oz per 10 oz glass; cold plates 45% more; packaged ice 10 lbs × bags. Customer-count table includes 20% and has no quick-service column. Actual output may be 10–15% lower in hot rooms. Modular 250–2,500 lb/day; undercounter 50–500, typical 100–250; dispenser 200–800 production. No BBQ row.
- KaTom, How Much Ice Should Your Commercial Ice Maker Produce? — opened 2026-10-03. Schema
dateModified2026-09-14. Restaurant 1.5 pounds per customer. Drive-thru 5 oz / 7–10 oz cup; 8 / 12–16; 12 / 18–24. Prose: add 20 percent. Quick-reference header (+20% for Safety). Cocktail about 3 pounds per customer; the table’s cocktail columns include that 20%. Water: add 5 ounces per 7- to 10-ounce glass. Packaged ice: bag weight × bags. The printed 500-customer / 8 oz cell is 375 lb; ounce math with 20% is 300 lb. No BBQ row. - Memphis Ice, What Size Ice Machine Do I Need for My Business? — opened 2026-10-03. Food Service: restaurant 1.5 lbs per person, cocktail 3 lbs per person, salad bar 40 lbs per cubic foot, quick service 5 / 8 / 12 oz on the 7–10 / 12–16 / 18–24 oz bands. Convenience-store packaged ice is weight per bag × bags; cold plate 50%. Prose: at least 20% additional capability on new installations. No BBQ row.
- WebstaurantStore, Manitowoc ice machines quick-reference PDF and manitowoc_sizing_guide.pdf — both opened 2026-10-03. Fast Food 5 oz per 7–10 oz drink; 8 oz per 12–16; 12 oz per 18–24. Restaurant 1-1/2 lb per person. Cocktail 3 lb per person/seat. Water glass 4 oz per 10 oz glass. Packaged ice lbs per bag × bags sold, under Convenience Store, with cold plate 50%. No date on either PDF. No BBQ row.
- Atlantic Store Equipment, Commercial Ice Machine Sizing Guide — dated Jul 15, 2026, opened 2026-10-03. Quick-service restaurant 0.5–1.0 lb per customer. Full-service restaurant about 1.5 lb per customer, with bar and other lines added separately. Cup-by-cup is more precise when beverage counts exist. Kitchen and food preparation is measured peak-day use. Bagging is its own worksheet row. Reserve table: 10–15%, 15–25%, or 25–30%. No BBQ row.
- Hoshizaki 2018 brochure, Item #40071, dated 5-25-18, as recorded on the taco-shop guide on 2026-10-01: Fast Food 10.0 oz ice per 20–32 oz cup; restaurant 2.0 lbs per seat. This page did not re-download the PDF on 2026-10-03. A 16 oz tea is outside that fast-food band. No BBQ row on that recording.
- VenueIce, how to size a commercial ice machine — quick-service and restaurant rows only. No BBQ row on that table. This page does not invent one there.
- Directory pages for the models in the table: KM-81BAK, KM-161BAK, UYF-0140A, UYF-0190A, ICEU150HA, HID525, RNP0320A, GEM0450A, C0330MA-1, CIM0430A, IYT0450A, KM-520MAJ, F-330BAK.
If two sheets disagree, we say so. The 1.5 lb restaurant row and GoFoodservice’s 2 lb restaurant row are both printed. They are not an average, and neither one replaces a counted cup.